The TERFs http://theterfs.com Mon, 03 Apr 2017 16:41:53 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 59010852 #TERFlogic: It’s “gender critical” to mock trans vaginas in the same way that anti-feminists mock cis vaginas! http://theterfs.com/2017/04/03/terflogic-its-gender-critical-to-mock-trans-vaginas-in-the-same-way-that-anti-feminists-mock-cis-vaginas/ Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:53:30 +0000 http://theterfs.com/?p=1161 Read more → ]]> Also, trans women are easy to spot which is why not disclosing their non-cis status is rape:

Also, according to “gender critical” TERFlogic, feminist discourse is describing the vaginas of trans women in the way anti-feminists discuss the vaginas of cis women.

But then, these Reddit TERFs are merely aping the public behavior of TERF opinion leaders:

To punctuate the ideological differences between patriarchy dressed up as Radical Feminism – TERF ideology – and actual Radical Feminism, here’s what Andrea Dworkin had to say about the type of discourse TERFs and anit-feminists use:

Women are also wittily rebuked for having filthy genitals… The filth of women is a central conceit in culture: taken to be a fact; noted, remarked on, explicated, analyzed… excremental filth, filth down there, between the legs, in the hole, the wound oozing blood and slime, dirt and smell; the dirt inherent in the genitals or in her bad character [1]

Linda Shanko (AKA “Gallus Mag”), the proprietor of the popular TERF site known as GenderTrender[2] – a site that functioned as source-material for Jeffreys’ newly published academic book Gender Hurts [3] – took a turn at disparaging the vaginas of trans women. “Some of Bower’s clients have…’complications’ from the procedure which turns penile material into a fuck-hole [of] chronic UTIs and odor/infections.” [4] Shanko wasn’t alone in her mockery of the bodies of trans women. Commenting on one of Shanko’s posts, a reader replied, “Because surgical fuckholes are not vaginas… stale urine, lint, sweat, and body fluids can just get in there and fester. It’s totally nasty that anyone in their right mind would do that to their healthy body.”[5]

Jeffreys had a great deal more to say about the uncleanliness of trans women’s vaginas. “The medical evidence is that a bad smell exists and is associated with fecal bacteria common to those male-bodied transgenders who engage in ‘heterosexual’ coitus.” Jeffreys continues, “The neovaginas lack the lactobacilii connected with vaginal health in females.”

While when actual researchers compared the vaginas of trans women to cis women, they concluded that a trans woman’s vaginal bacteria is similar to the vsaginal bacteria of premenstrual cis females [6], TERFs seem happy to take up a patriarchal discursive practices Dworkin explicitly despised and rejected. To have a woman’s vagina assessed – or, as Dworkin said, “noted, remarked on, explicated, analyzed” – to authenticate her credibility, legitimacy, and validity is to deploy the very patriarchy TERFs (ironically) assert their “gender critical feminism” fights in their decades-old war on trans people.

[1] Andrea Dworkin, Intercourse, p 233

[2] Cathy Brennan outs Gallus Mag: http://i.imgur.com/9Y8pkfZ.png

[3] Sheila Jeffreys, Gender Hurts, p viii

[4] http://archive.is/Ykr3Q

[5] http://archive.is/FZKJl

[6] Weyers S. et al., Microflora of the penile skin-lined neovagina of transsexual women, BioMed Central Microbiol 9, 102 (2009)

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Also, a trans teen who, according to TERFlogic, has non-functioning genitals is also a sexual predator who will attack her siblings.

And while it’s trans people of all ages who are, according to TERFlogic, sexually deviant, I’d like to point out that this particular “gender critical” thread generated over 100 comments:

TERFlogic: Jazz is “miserable all the time” because her genitals are “tiny”; 1970s-era inversion techniques are the only surgical option. BTW, here’s a book Jazz co-authored about how glad she is she was able to transition.

 That’s right. That’s 124 times TERFs couldn’t stop themselves from obsessing over a kid’s genitals because they’re not cis. But then, TERFs have a long history of demanding access and the right to publicly describe the genitals of trans kids:

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And, of course, they can’t help but conflate gender dysphoria with gender non-conformity by relying on DSM-IV desistance rates that found that 70 – 80% of kids diagnosed with a gender identity disorder (GID) desisted in having GID. Nevermind that under the DSM-IV, a kid could be diagnosed with GID without ever having experienced gender dysphoria.  Under DSM-IV standards, a kid could be 100% happy with their sexed attributes and express no interest in transition and yet qualify as having GID merely because the kid was, in some way, gender nonconforming.

Dr. Zucker, the patron saint of the gender critical movement, asserted that 70% of the children he treated for GID at his clinic did not have gender dysphoria. When it comes to dealing with gender dysphoria, even Dr. Zucker rejects the nonsense TERF assert:

[A]t age 3, children begin to self-label and form their gender identity. Nascent signs often emerge before age 18 months and perception of gender is present and forming […] [a]t age 15 in adolescence the most likely outcome is persistence of the GD. 70%-80% would continue to have GD. The treatment would be social transition and biomedical treatment. – Dr. Zucker

Of course, a “gender critical” activist won’t tell you any of this. Instead, they’ll lie: purposefully conflating gender nonconformity with gender dysphoria; conflating DSM-IV findings/standards with contemporary findings/standards; and, pretending that “affirmative care” means that trans kids are given hormones and surgeries.

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Parents who love their resentment more than their trans kids hurt their kids. Don’t let their hate overwhelm you:

Trans Lifeline: 
US: (877) 565-8860
Canada: (877) 330-6366

The Trevor Project:
1-866-488-7386
Chat or text

Parents of Trans Kids: A group of parents who support their trans kids is making themselves available to folks who might need to talk. You can reach them here.

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#TERFlogic: Real oppression is being rejected for anti-trans bigotry http://theterfs.com/2017/03/06/terflogic-real-oppression-is-being-rejected-for-being-anti-trans-bigotry/ http://theterfs.com/2017/03/06/terflogic-real-oppression-is-being-rejected-for-being-anti-trans-bigotry/#comments Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:12:55 +0000 http://theterfs.com/?p=1136

Like the gamergaters and the political right, they claim oppression when they aren’t provided a safe-space-to-shitpost platform anywhere and everywhere… because that’s what real oppression looks like: being so privileged that being asked to not be a bigoted asshole everywhere and in all places is unbearable.

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#TERFlogic: Social habits learned as a kid is the sexed essence that makes a woman a woman because “sex and gender are not interchangeable” http://theterfs.com/2017/03/05/terflogic-social-habits-learned-as-a-kid-is-the-sexed-essence-that-makes-a-woman-a-woman-because-sex-and-gender-are-not-interchangeable/ http://theterfs.com/2017/03/05/terflogic-social-habits-learned-as-a-kid-is-the-sexed-essence-that-makes-a-woman-a-woman-because-sex-and-gender-are-not-interchangeable/#comments Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:35:25 +0000 http://theterfs.com/?p=1132 Read more → ]]>

From the Telegraph article:

The BBC Radio 4 presenter said that men who had grown up with all the privileges that entails did not have the shared experience of growing up female.”

Murray validates her views by hiding behind the handful of social media TERF tokens, trans people who side with TERFs and who get love bombed for their trolling of other trans people:

However Murray said she has found support among some transgender women, “who willingly accept they cannot describe themselves as women and who agree that sex and gender are not interchangeable”.

Related: An interview with an ex-TERF token

In short, the gendercrit movement’s moment strolled in circles with an uncertain inertia, and no direction to turn. r/gendercrit is little more than an insult forum with tautologies: “trans women take selfies; some narcissists take selfies therefore, all trans women are narcissists.” Same with tumblr. Twitter. Facebook. The voices of “gender abolition” in social media are largely hectoring brays of targeted insults and denigration, all on the anonymous.

Gender abolitionism wants a world without gender, and therefore transgender people, in it. That’s the political objective: no more trans.

Thus, is “gender abolitionism” an ethically accountable system, rejecting yet possessed of compassion for transgender people . . . perhaps in a “love the sinner, hate the sin” sense? Varies by the individual, of course. (And whatever is most politically opportunistic at any given time.)  Sure, there are gender abolitionists (GA) who are great mates with gender abolitionist/trans embodied individuals. Some distantly sympathize with trans women. What I notice about the ‘sympathy’, however, is an admixture of pity and intrigue for the ramifications of our existence. Is it ‘compassionate’ to assess all trans woman as emotionally traumatized by-products of masculinist gender agendas, hapless puppets to gender therapists and victims of Father Knows Best medicine?

Because the compassion fades right f’ing quickly before the abolitionist strategic design for the future. Abolitionists, by ideological default, must condemn transition as a reckless, untested aberration for the confused and selfish; and so SRS is always mutilation. And, predictably, the attacks go straight for trans health care, since treatment for the “defect” of gender dysphoria is a clumsy, misogynist intervention at the individual level. Collectively, trans health care equals the phallo-pharmaceutical destruction of womankind.

So — being ‘compassionate’ in a clinical sense, sure — yet being selective in who gets that compassion, on what terms . . . pronoun cherry-picking, appointing “right-thinking” trans women, sticking to the same researchers and eluding over a very broad scholarly conversation about sex and gender in society . . . it’s not compassionate to be telling a young trans woman preparing for her SRS that she’s about to become a Living-Wound of permanent defilement. That seems like a pretty shitty kind of bully, really. Not what they say – what they do.

Let me rethink of it this way . . . what I mostly saw as “compassion” was pathos; and as for the cudgel? We’ve all been hit by the cudgel. Blame, punishment, condemnation … anytime, any place, any reason. I’m not denying poignant individual friendships exist between individual GA feminists and trans women. Nor would I deny the outright tokenism and exploitation of the “TERF pet”. It happens.

Kind interactions can often slide into confrontations, with peer pressure and group think ensuring the GATE doesn’t step out of line. Because in their view the most compassionate thing to tell a gender abolitionist/trans embodied individual is to destransition! Thus, at a certain point,  ‘compassion’ or ‘cudgel’ are not readily distinguishable amidst a political vanguard possessed of an extreme gender-scepticism. The trans person, attempting to hold gender abolitionist views, is a glaring paradox. How does one experientially benefit daily from the civic and social accommodations that trans activism has won for us, yet denounce or discredit the principles and civil rights issues that led to these accommodations?

The cudgel isn’t just to “bash” a trans woman for liking skirts or having long hair (those fetishists!). Their cudgel is primarily a gavel: the resounding echo of judgment, the oakwood bang of guilty-as-proven-trans. There is a sadism in that: the beating down of another, the yucky other – and the reckless glee with which some of the TERFs take in such pugilism that is well documented and disturbing. They want us to hurt for being who we are – that’s a sociopathy deeper than politics.

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#TERFlogic: Defund Planned Parenthood because they don’t force trans men to identify as women http://theterfs.com/2017/03/03/terflogic-defund-planned-parenthood-because-they-dont-force-trans-men-to-identify-as-women/ http://theterfs.com/2017/03/03/terflogic-defund-planned-parenthood-because-they-dont-force-trans-men-to-identify-as-women/#comments Fri, 03 Mar 2017 23:27:57 +0000 http://theterfs.com/?p=1128

Here, I think it’s appropriate to note that the TransAdvocate helps fund abortions and #ProTransProChoice is a thing:

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TERFs believe that Planned Parenthood held a workshop to teach trans women how to rape cis Lesbians. Seriously. They believe it’s true.

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Related:

Sandy Stone, victim of attempted murder by TERF group:

Sandy Stone recounts the time when Olivia Records (a lesbian separatist, radical feminist women’s music collective) came under attack for being trans inclusive:  “We were getting hate mail about me.… The death threats were directed at me, but there were violent consequences proposed for the Collective if they didn’t get rid of me.”

Olivia and Stone were informed that a TERF group named The Gorgons asserted that they would murder Stone if Olivia’s show came to Seattle.  Stone said that the Olivia show was “probably the only women’s music tour that was ever done with serious muscle security.”

Making good on their threats, armed Gorgons came to the show but was disarmed by Olivia security. Stone said, “In fact, Gorgons did come and they did have guns taken away from them. I was terrified. During a break between a musical number someone shouted out ‘GORGONS!’ and I made it from my seat at the console to under the table the console was on at something like superluminal speed. I stayed under there until it was clear that I wasn’t about to be shot.

Cis radical feminist Robin Tyler beaten by TERFs, recounting attempted bashing of Beth Elliott:

“We defended Beth Eliot. Robin Morgan came up with this horrible speech and when Beth went on stage to play her guitar and sing, [TERFs] started threatening her. Patty [Harrison] and I jumped on stage and we got hit, because they came onto the stage to physically beat her.”

Lesbian Avengers mobbed by TERFs, threatened with knife in front of MichFest audience:

“A huge crowd of yelling people formed around us and I started crying at that point. It got so loud that Nomy Lamm, who was performing there as part of Sister Spit, came over and stood up for us… The crowd and me were walked over to a tent area. The way that it worked was that there was a queue of people who were going to get to say whatever they wanted to say. I remember, specifically, one woman looking right at me and telling me that I needed to leave the Land as soon as possible because she had a knife and didn’t know if she would be able to control herself if I was around her.”

Stonewall Riot veteran Sylvia Rivera, victim of beating organized by a TERF opinion leader:

“‘Jean O’Leary, a founder of Radicalesbians, decided that drag queens were insulting to women… I had been told I was going to speak at the rally… She told Vito Russo to kick my ass onstage… but I still got up and spoke my piece.’ Although Rivera was famously quoted as saying in response, ‘Hell hath no fury like a drag queen scorned,’ this incident precipitated yet another suicide attempt on her part. Jean O’Leary later reversed her position, and she and Sylvia ultimately remained respectful peers, but the events of that day in 1973 ultimately took something out of Sylvia Rivera. In the succeeding years, Sylvia Rivera’s participation in ‘the movement’ waned. Although she attended every Christopher Street Liberation Day Parade (with the exception of two) until her death, Sylvia’s formal participation in organizations like the GLF and the GAA came to a halt.” – Susan Glisson (Ed), The Human Tradition in the Civil Rights Movement, p 325

Cis & trans activists threatened at MichFest, inspiring the Camp Trans movement:

“Some people in the festival began harassing us and then around noon on Wednesday or Thursday, the festival security stopped by and told us that the trans women in our group would have to leave, ‘for their own safety.’

Tensions were definitely rising, we were told. We had scheduled to do some workshops and some folks were definitely hostile. We were told that, for our own safety, the trans women would need to leave the festival as soon as possible. It was a situation.

We decided that I would stay inside the festival to continue educating people and the other folks would set up camp across the street from the festival in protest.”

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#TERFLogic: FaceBook is part of the trans conspiracy! http://theterfs.com/2017/02/28/terflogic-facebook-is-part-of-the-trans-conspiracy/ Tue, 28 Feb 2017 15:57:41 +0000 http://theterfs.com/?p=1111

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B… b…but, TERF IS A SLUR!!1!TM

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#TERFLogic: normalizing pedo obsessions is radical! http://theterfs.com/2017/02/28/terflogic-normalizing-pedo-obsessions-is-radical/ Tue, 28 Feb 2017 06:01:27 +0000 http://theterfs.com/?p=1117 Read more → ]]> The type of treatment Dr. Zucker practiced on gender nonconforming children was informed by research that quantified how physically attractive effeminate prepubescent boys are:

While TERFs spend a lot of time concern-trolling over trans kids, when it comes down to critiquing the patriarchal gaze of their favorite Disco Sexologist, they’re happy to do what they can to normalize rating the physical attractiveness of 8-year-old gender nonconforming children:

This isn’t the first time TERFs have tried to normalize these types of interactions between adults and children. TERFs couldn’t line up fast enough to defend the right of an adult TERF to talk a minor into allowing them to gaze of their genitalia:

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#TERFLogic: The trans conspiracy will will strip cis women of their reproductive rights http://theterfs.com/2017/02/27/terflogic-the-trans-conspiracy-will-will-strip-cis-women-of-their-reproductive-rights/ Mon, 27 Feb 2017 20:16:55 +0000 http://theterfs.com/?p=1101

In other words, we’re just going to pretend that #ProTransProChoice stuff isn’t a thing:

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