UPDATE: Aftermath of supposed cancellation of radfem2013
Bev Jo: They expect we’ll be shocked to see statistics about them being killed, and don’t realize, some of us wish they would ALL be dead.
Luckynkl: SCAMs (Surgically and Chemically Altered Males) are nothing more than MRAs (Men’s Rights Activists) in dresses.
Bev Jo: [Transgender Women Are] Male supremacists who want to skin real women to wear as their “womanly” guise. They WOULD be a boring joke, except for the many women who support them. It’s all about saying no to men who won’t take no for an answer, except this group of female-haters have female guardians.
MaggieH: The libfems who are being so indoctrinated by patriarchal trans ideologies need to wake up and stop believing the lies. Libfems, especially, please stop internalizing the big patriarchal lie that says that men can somehow “become” women, a lie that was created by the male-supremacist medical establishment to begin with. Libfems, please stop supporting trans attacks against us. Stop believing they are “women;” they’re MEN. Show us that you don’t want to be handmaidens of patriarchy, coz that’s sad…
llaff: I feel like all one would need to do to counteract the funfem support of transwomen is ask them if they’d like to fuck a transwomen. Hypocritical eye-darting may just ensue.
WrathOfTiamat: The fun-fem/MRA/trans backlash is designed in order to make us lose our time, it’s the same old male vampirism now disguised in effeminate, ugly, weirdoes saying they’re women.
MaggieH: [Males are] Fucking mutants. When will there ever be a male-only deadly disease taking over the earth to put them out of their misery, huh?
Luckynkl: The male-born are biologically incomplete mutants, useless and obsolete; walking viruses on two legs and a cancer, spreading disease, death and destruction wherever they go. They are the walking-dead and the antithesis to life. Gyn-energy sucking vampires who have to plug into women and feed on them in order to survive. No different than a parasite who sucks the life and energy out of its host.
Mantis: Oh, dontcha know? Anybody can be a woman if they feel like one…even if they have a big, hairy cock hangin’ between their legs.
Bonobabe: Personally, I think we should do away with circumcision and replace it with castration.
WhiteTiger: If we’re going that road, why not just cull boy babies for awhile? Re-establish a sane balance. Then we can start selective breeding programs for donor males… [To cull means to reduce the population of by selective slaughter.]
Bonobobabe: Most women don’t like penetration all that much (if they are brutally honest with themselves and not a fun fem). I can’t imagine having a dick shoved into a surgical wound would feel so much more wonderful than what real women feel when a dick is put inside their real vaginas.
ybawife: I get really angry at these men who assert they are womon…I just wanna tell them to fuck off and find a gender of their own and leave OURs alone- bastards all of them…
Moonrider: If you’re so intent on saying you’re a woman, why do you NEVER say you are? Why are you NEVER interested in something other than what the status quo says is how a woman is? Why do you never give a shit about the lives of other women? Why the fuck, if you’re so against stereotypes, do you go to all attempts to be “feminine”? Stupid men.
MaggieH: Jeez! Fucking SCAMs make me puke, just like all other men…
Helzeph: [Trans women] all through history they have been used by patriarchy to infiltrate women’s spaces. It began in the temples, and slowly priestesses turned to priests and they invade feminist spaces today and hijack our agendas. Their reaction to [the death of Mary] Daly proves for all to see that they don’t care about actual women and our welfare at all.
JourneyMistress: It might be well and good to “educate” them [males] but that seems to take decades. Only if you are dedicated to educating the Terminally Stupid should you embark on this…Detachment is the key to emotional survival in a world plagued by males. Otherwise you really do just want to shoot them on sight.
MaggieH: There are times when I just want all men dead right now. Sometimes I really, really daydream about a virus that would suddenly take over the earth and that would kill all males (also that would make them well suffer before they die), as well as give us the possibility to reproduce through parthenogenesis… Oh, my Goddess, I want men to be So. Fucking. Dead. Right now!!!
Luckynkl: So at this point in time, men are a complete waste of our time and energy. They are a hopeless cause. And if we don’t take them out soon, they will destroy this planet and all life on it. So they’ve got to go.
Bev Jo: There are no words to describe them. There are tiny parasitic wasps who paralyze small animals (spiders, caterpillars, etc.) and lay their eggs on them, so the animal is alive while being slowing eaten by the growing baby. But the wasps aren’t deliberately cruel. These men remind me of a deliberately female-hating version of that. They’ve prove what I’ve been saying for decades — they are more female-hating than even many het men. The character in Silence of the Lambs who skinned women to wear really seems more accurate all the time.
WrathOfTiamat: Just imagine that this idea of making gender-neutral toilets is brought to terms and we end up having to go pee with the males…we’d be in constant panic to get raped and we would sure as hell get bullied all the time—well AND raped.
Luckynkl: So if we can come up with a biological weapon that can be ingested and kill off the Y Chromosome in a man’s sperm count, we’re almost home. We can all get hired as waitresses or chefs or work at McDonald’s and sprinkle it into the food or something… It’s not a quick solution. It will take about 2 generations to cull males.
But it will work.
RoseVerbena: I do not agree that you are a woman. I will never agree that you are a woman. Having GID does not make you a woman. I will go to my grave disagreeing that you are a woman. That’s final.
Delphyne: This is what trans has always been about. All their politics, all their organizing, centers around preventing women from experiencing real women-only spaces, and women-only politics. Ten years ago trans politics barely existed, but since then they have managed to create for themselves a whole new brand of oppression, found themselves armies of supporters, who think they are being cool and tolerant by supporting men in dresses…
Bug Brennan: When cross-dressing males, who have not sought medical treatment and/or who do not intend to transition, demand access to sex-segregated spaces on the vague basis of a feminine ‘gender identity,’ that is an infringement on our rights.
BevJo: It’s way more than just pretend bodies for SCAMs—these men’s minds, hearts and spirits are nowhere near to what women’s are. They can’t be, they never will be, and the more they threaten and insult us, the clearer it is to all women. It’s like they are way beyond even most rapists, who want to maim and torture and possess girls and women… They want to completely eliminate us, and particularly Lesbians, as a culture, a people, as living beings. Like how the women were replaced in the original Stepford Wives and Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Kill us and replace us with pretenders.
RoseVerbena: Just say NO to pretendbian lady-sticks, “new and improved” f-holes made of colon and all the other insults and appropriations. Just say no to culturally enforced, sexist “jendah” stereotypes, coercing baby dykes and “effeminate” boys into transitioning, media hyping of so-called “pregnant men.” sexually-obsessed adult males being legally enabled to invade women’s safe and private spaces and the ongoing, accelerating pornification of woman-kind.
Gallus Mag: We didn’t exclude you from being female, God did. Blame her.
FeistyAmazon: Just one man, or one male born can ruin a woman only space, cuz they don’t just sit down, shut up and ACTIVELY LISTEN to us and what we are saying amongst ourselves…they ALWAYS have to take over and draw attention to themselves and TELL US WHAT TO DO! Damn, that fucking workshop drained
me, and pissed me off so fucking bad!
Allecto Tauni: Women beware Dionysus. He is far more dangerous than Zeus.
Amazon ManCrusher: I don’t believe in the tooth fairy or all seeing invisible sky dude or males being born into wrong sexed bodies.
MaggieH: Fed up with those fucking trannies saying they are womyn. They need to get blasted too. They’re men.
FCM: Neo-Vagina? Or Second Asshole? There is absolutely NO non-patriarchal, non-misogynist reason to regard this structure as a neo-vagina rather than a second asshole… If you must, call it a second asshole, because at least that’s not misogynist.
Bev Jo: They expect we’ll be shocked to see statistics about them [transgender women] being killed, and don’t realize, some of us wish they would ALL be dead.
Noanodyne: 1) Lesbians have one single solitary gender in the minds of the vast majority of human beings: Woman. And a woman is an adult female in all but the tiny little minds of a handful of mentally ill people.
Rose Verbena: Gender Identity Disorder is very much a mental illness. It causes people to: — hate their own bodies up to and including a strong urge to cut off perfectly normal, perfectly healthy body parts, take dangerous hormones, etc.;
In summary: the entire (fad, cult) “trans” lie is a threat to my spiritual and mental health and my physical safety.
Davina Squirrel: Well transwhacktivists are indeedy stuck between a rock and a hard place. In order to popularise it (primarily cross-dressing and other male fetishes like autogynephilia) they had to get the medical profession onside and declare it to be a legitimate (mental) illness, which it is. Now trans want us to treat them as rational (non mentally ill) humans, even though they exhibit all the signs of multiple other mental illnesses in addition to the GID.
We respect trans’ human rights like we do with a person who has schizophrenia, but we also recognise it is dangerous to indulge a schizophrenic’s delusions and try to stop them causing themselves harm.
Cathy Brennan: The goal of “trans” whacktivists is to ERASE “woman” from reality These insane MALES are trying to erase us, women. They are actively working night and day to ERASE us from our shared language, from our laws, from the face of the earth.
Rose Verbena: All the little snowflake people think, “I can be whatever I want…because I’m special, special, special…” Is their a mirror in this dude’s house? I don’t know a SINGLE person in my day-to-day life who actually believes that “trans women” are real women. Not one. They might not openly laugh and point, but the eye roll is always there, letting me know that they know that THAT (insert chin point and eye roll here) is not a woman.
We all know they’re men in drag. All of us. Some of us just pretend to go along with it out of a mis-placed sense of “being nice to the crazy person” I will always stand up against violence and against discrimination in housing, medical care, etc. for people who are mentally ill. But I will NEVER pander to or enable their delusional behavior and I will NEVER approve of these dudes invading women’s safe and private spaces. NEVER.
I can’t think of anyone on the planet less “fuckable” as a group than “trans women”. *** shiver *** It’s like they have a force-field around them that repels people.
Straight men don’t want them. Lesbians don’t want them. I’m bisexual and I’ve never been attracted to one, not once in 38 years of adult life — they’re no more attractive to me than a lump of coal.
m Andrea:
If they were to assist in dismantling a system of gender oppression, then there would be no plausible explanation for their need to transform their bodies. I suspect that whatever twisted neurons are responsible for transgenderism, would just focus on a different fetish.
doublevez:
They are dangerously, seriously mentally ill. The fact that they are not being treated for THAT is a human rights infraction.
tiamathydra:
And in case castrated men with dresses and lipstick insist in infiltrating female-only spaces, you know what? We should create female-only secret societies and spread our tentacles from there.
easilyriled:
I’m transpecied. Inside, I am a porpoise. i have tried to get surgeons to remove my thumbs so that my hands can become the flippers they really are. but they won’t.
“unethical” they say. oh well. I use duct tape to good effect. it’s not fair, it’s transphobic that i have to pay to go to the aquarium to even see my people. and then i am still not allowed to swim with them. i am a porpoise. do not call me “Flipper”. that’s demeaning.
Mary Sunshine:
Any reference to trannies as “women” is a betrayal of women who are, by definition, adult human females.
Mary Sunshine:
Females don’t have to kill baby boys. Just not nurture them. Females are forced to *birth* baby boys, but beyond that a female’s physical actions are her own.
Males will die without the constant infusion of female energy that they get from our wombs and from our lives.
They are perfectly welcome to take the male infants from the hands of the midwife, and what they do with it from that point is *their* decision.
Dawnsister:
Not at all, Maggie. In fact, I’m one of those bad, shameful feminists who wish we could all just kill the fuckers(men).
ybawife:
I[sic] needs to be so unfashionable to have boys and they would be aborted before seeing the light of day.
Journeywoman:
I like it a lot, Luckynki, I agree basically with your analysis, though, I have a different emphasis so far in the evolutinary biology stuff I’m looking at. You’re more radical than I ATM, thouh, who knows where I will be in a year – but your proposal to exterminate the male entirely a la Solanas is to me more of a last resort.
Ann Tagonist:
Who the fuck wants to be ‘intimate’ with a surgical wound anyway? Trans women, if you cut off your penis, lesbians still don’t want to have sex with you. This is because we know that females are not merely neutered males.
Vliet Tiptree:
My own personal vision is that women will cure the sickness that ails men and that men will stay around, hunkered in their man-caves playing the ukelele, leaving us in peace at last. As to what that cure may be, my best bet is that what’s wrong with men is that their androgens need genetic modification.
I’m serious about this. If we can do it with corn, men ought to be easy.
witchwind:
Anyway, these are many reasons that make me say PIV is in no way a natural human practice, and that women’s vagina isn’t meant to be penetrated at all, but only meant to expel a baby.
Mary Sunshine:
Women need to stop raising male children. Women who raise male children are digging the graves of other females. Nobody wants to bite that bullet (except lesbian separatists) but it must be done.
Femitheist Divine:
All Men Should Be Castrated? – International “Castration Day”
Some Feminists have considered this as an option. It is highly controversial.
Allow me to introduce myself…
My name is Krista, otherwise known as “The Femitheist”. I am a female, a feminist, and someone who believes strongly in True Equality.
Now, I will begin explaining this entry before I post the actual article… for your discussion, of course.
Women MUST and WILL have equality, and this is the ONLY way to achieve TRUE equality. The testicles of all males, which produce the majority of their testosterone, are the primary cause of their violent behavior. The testicles also attribute greatly to many of the health problems men experience later in life (such as
prostate cancer and, of course, testicular cancer).
~:The Solution… International Castration Day.:~
It is my belief (which I consider factual based on my research) that all men SHOULD be castrated. Not only for their own safety, but for the safety of all innocent women and children.
And, to achieve this…
The entire world should have an international holiday known as: “Castration Day”
Males of all ages will be brought to the public squares of their cities nude, to stand together in a circle, as they await castration by a woman known as “The Castrator”, who will be a woman chosen from the public much like a juror.
Girls of all ages will attend, lining the streets to cheer and applaud the males as they join the rest of civilized society.
It will be a free vacation for any working woman. And, young girls will be able to leave school to attend this glorious ceremony.
The males will then have one hour to get to know their Castrator. Their female “spouse” will also be able to choose whether or not they would like to milk the male in order to retain a sperm sample.
If the male is too young for a “spouse”, their mother or closest female relative will decide.
After this, the men will be given anesthetics. They will be placed on a table, where their Castrator will then slice open their ball-sack, remove their testicles, and the excess skin, stitch them up and clean them up.
They will be given thirty minutes to rest after the procedure.
Once the males have all been castrated, they will be grouped together again for one last look before walking nude back to their homes.
The women will then return to their jobs, schools, et cetera, and rejoice in the completion of yet another successful ceremony.
Any man who tries to evade this holiday, “Castration Day”, should be murdered wherever they are found (treated as a criminal, as it will be a crime not to attend). Or, forced to attend.
Regardless of age.
Any woman who disagrees should be provided therapy in order to free her from misogynistic indoctrination.
This holiday should replace the day known currently as “Father’s Day”.
If this practice were adopted officially all across the world, all war, crime, and violence would end.
We would have a true Eutopia, where peace reigns, and men do only what they exist for…
Maggieh:
Fed up with those fucking trannies saying they are womyn. They need to get blasted too. They’re men.
Luckynkl:
Oh well, we can always hope for a cave-in, black lung or poisonous gas to overtake them. Mining jobs aren’t even fit for a canary.
WhiteTiger:
If our appalling collective lack of proper nutrition will start weeding out males in a natural selection sort of way..
Mangetout:
How about a pro-TW movement, where we de-penisize every male child born, just in case he is a “woman born in a manz body”? This actually works for me.
Hi. Not sure what I’ve wandered into here! To be honest I don’t understand most of the comments! The jargon just goes completely over my head! One thing I will say is that, as a male, I am not in favour of a National Castration day. I imagine that would hurt.
Was also wondering why all men must die? Surely no one on here can argue that women’s football is anywhere near as good as men’s.
The whole Krista comment…wow, can you say “hate speech”? Too vile for words.
To TERFS:
Thank you for outing your ignorance. It’s interesting that you expect people who you want to kill to be polite to you. .
If the terf idiots harass me again, they WILL regret their decision.
I am a transgender female, and I will NOT put up with the terf nonsense anymore.
I am a woman, that just so happens, to be transgender. Sorry. Its do or die. A lot of posts and comments here suggest die. Ok then, the blood can be on your hands for wishing it and for speaking it. You speak of feminism the same way old sexist goat men spoke of male supremacy. Fighting one problem with another problem. The human spirit is genderless. There is feminine and masculine divine in all of us. A lot of what is here is opinion and I see no one is offering any kind of logical solution to this perceived problem. Just a lot of shit stirring and intolerance for other people that you think are differant than you. You know who else does that? Islamic extremists. They talk of death and ill will to particular groups of people they are intolerant and not understanding of as well. I like people who have in their power, compassion and understanding. Those are the people who make change and improve human experience. If there were more people like that, my goddess, what a merrier world it would be
I would also like to make it known that the human race will never make it past the moon if we all keep hold of our prejudices and hatred, or our lack of understanding and need to feel special and supreme. TERF is a reminder that people don’t have what it takes to evolve past our primordial senses.
Using male weapons make you worst than man! TERF must understand that they are doing exactly what the cis-hetero and sometimes gay men do to them! This bunch of haters so-called women that allow themselves to spread lies and hatred are nothing more than men-inclusive-without-even-realise-it group of women, that dream for oppression!
None of this women can’t know what it means, exactly to be a human first!
I hope that gender binary system will die one day, and creatures like TERF will stand with nothing!
Any chance of you translating this into language that a ‘normal’ (no offence intended) person can understand?
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@ Ashlie: You said it, girl(?)!
@ Thomas Brooks: Actually, trans men aren’t ‘women who want to be men’, they are males who were born into bodies that were assigned female. I know because I had a friend who was a trans man.
@ Al: There’s always True Feminists like my mother. She doesn’t believe in women having more rights, she believes in all humans having equal rights regardless of their differences (sex, skintone, etcetera). Naturally, this would result in women having the same rate of pay as men, hence the feminism angle.
@ Natalie: The whole point of this site is to expose the views of these ‘people’ (I use the term loosely). And they don’t just attack trans women, they’ve attacked me just because I didn’t fall all over myself to agree with them.
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I also have an issue with
the Greer G statement
No so-called sex-change has ever begged for a uterus-and-ovaries transplant; if uterus-and-ovaries transplants were made mandatory for wannabe women they would disappear overnight.
a] there would be no point becuase we have not [yet] developed the medical techniques
b] given that one of my indicators of being GD was the stong dreams of pregnancy – I would not ‘disspaear overnight’
offer we a viable and working uterus and ovaries transplant and i would willingly accept
as well as with
“Ann Tagonist:
re Trans women, if you cut off your penis, lesbians still don’t want to have sex with you.
a] is anne so ignorant of the procedure that she thinks the penis is removed
b] some lesbians including Ann T dont want to have sex with transwomen – maybe true – but that ALL dont want to is clearly false
no one is forcing you to – converesly those who do – should not be denigrated for doing so
WOAH these aren’t feminists they’re just plain old fascists
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“Mary Sunshine:
Females don’t have to kill baby boys. Just not nurture them. Females are forced to *birth* baby boys, but beyond that a female’s physical actions are her own.
Males will die without the constant infusion of female energy that they get from our wombs and from our lives.
They are perfectly welcome to take the male infants from the hands of the midwife, and what they do with it from that point is *their* decision.”
The same goes for little baby girls. Considering that, it’s perfectly logical that men also don’t have to do jack shit to help you raise your child either, male OR female.HOWEVER, we do because biologically there is a huge chemical attachment, because the passing of our genetic material is of great importance to the evolution of our species. Without men there would be NO genetic differentiation. Even if women did find a way to reproduce asexually genetic diseases would become more and more common, and eventually to entire human species would just die out.
“Ann Tagonist:
Who the fuck wants to be ‘intimate’ with a surgical wound anyway? Trans women, if you cut off your penis, lesbians still don’t want to have sex with you. This is because we know that females are not merely neutered males.”
God the ignorance. Not all trans women have any interest in being surgically altered, and not all trans people (Trans refers to WOMEN who want to be MEN too) are “lesbians”. In fact, most aren’t! Most are sexually attracted to MEN. And if you deny Trans honestly you deny Gay/ Les/ Bi too. These are NATURALLY OCCURRING sexual orientations.
Completely bat shit insane, the lot of them, and they somehow think they are superior to men, or that, for some reason, violence will be snuffed out of the world if all men die or are castrated? How terrifying that belong to the same species as these would-be mass murderers.
Funny thing, this. I may not be an MRA myself, but I’ve always been wary and suspicious of feminism due to my prior experience of it consisting of women (and a few men) exactly like the above.
Now, I’m aware enough to know that not all feminists hate men, but the fact is that I have seen virtually no evidence of feminists so much as disapproving of such despicable talk and behaviour, so unfortunately I still have yet to trust them.
[…] Ok then, my entry into TERFs was with Germaine Greer, I don’t know that much about her in general, but I’ve seen a few doccos and so on, I then came across this quote. “Governments that consist of very few women have hurried to recognise as women men who believe that they are women and have had themselves castrated to prove it, because they see women not as another sex but as a non-sex. No so-called sex-change has ever begged for a uterus-and-ovaries transplant; if uterus-and-ovaries transplants were made mandatory for wannabe women they would disappear overnight. The insistence that man-made women be accepted as women is the institutional expression of the mistaken conviction that women are defective males.” And I was both angry and confused, since when are women a “non-sex”, or trans* women “man made”. I did not understand how people would think that, what triggered these comments that were so separate from the lives of trans* people. I then found this section of a rationalwiki page, here is an exerpt. Academic radical feminism (as noted above) is premised upon the idea that gender is entirely a social construct (and further, that it must be destroyed). Transgender people tend to maintain, on the other hand, that gender is to some extent intrinsic (that is, even though they were raised as a male/female, they have always identified as a female/male, and further, they often, but not always, want bodies to match). As frequently happens when ideology runs up against someone else’s lived experiences, ideologues respond by trying to hammer the problem flat until it fits with what they already believe see more The pieces of the puzzle started to fit together, and (horribly offensive) terms like “women born women” started to make sense. Trans* people challanged TERFs by their very existance, and it is easy to stomp them down and try to raise “women born women” on pedestals. Then the issue becomes, why is this a bad thing, what is wrong with what TERFs are doing and saying. Obviously theres the trans*phobia aspect and and spreading misconception, but there is a biger issue at hand. And that is the TERFs often actuvely work against trans* rights. They reject trans* people being accepted by a gender other than the one assigned at birth, they reject trans* people’s rights to use public toilets. TERFs have even been connected in stopping trans*people gaining medical care. How are they getting away with this you might wonder? Many reasons, they are left wing, because they are within feminist and often socialist circles, discussing pro-woman and pro-freedom messages. Due to this they are welcomed into spaces and debates where traditional conservatives would be rejected. Its a lesson on how our biggest threats come from here we least expect, and how the strongest argument is one we don’t debate. http://www.theterfs.com goes into much more detail I highly recomend their posts on TERF myths, signs someone is a TERF, and TERF quotes. […]
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I’m sorry, how is the above comments not counted as hate speech? I guess if the hate speech is targeted at transwomen society is just fine with it? If the incitement to violence is inciting violence agienst a transwomen, that’s ok, is it? anyone else here not ok with these terfs?
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